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Comments on: Sex Utensil Materials: Silicone (aka the Epic Silicone Post) https://loraxofsex.com/2014/03/epic-silicone-post/ Sex Utensil Savant Sat, 28 Jan 2017 09:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.6 By: FieryRed https://loraxofsex.com/2014/03/epic-silicone-post/#comment-458 Sat, 28 Jan 2017 09:27:00 +0000 http://loraxofsex.com/?p=2140#comment-458 So, I know you wrote this a few years back, but it’s still excellent. I just wanted to comment on the quote from Doc Johnson: “Sil-A-Gel … utilizes ingredients that are on the FDA Safe Ingredient List….that is
where the SIL stands for. This was not meant to trick anybody into
thinking that this was a silicone product.” I cannot find any such thing on the internet as an “FDA Safe Ingredient List.” The FDA does maintain a list called GRAS, or “Generally Recognized As Safe,” and a “Food Additive Status List,” but nothing with the initials SIL.

Even if there were such a list, why would a sex toy company choose such a general name for an antibacterial agent? Especially if it isn’t even a gel? Why wouldn’t they call it something along the lines of “Clean-Guard”? Multiple people DO think these are silicone products, and it would be unrealistic to believe DJ didn’t do any market testing of the name.

In other words, I call bullshit on that Doc Johnson statement.

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By: ToyzRme https://loraxofsex.com/2014/03/epic-silicone-post/#comment-334 Tue, 14 Apr 2015 15:03:00 +0000 http://loraxofsex.com/?p=2140#comment-334 It was mentioned once in the article and once in the comments without a remedy (if a remedy exists), but is there a way to remove an absorbed stain from a silicone toy?

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By: gardenlobster https://loraxofsex.com/2014/03/epic-silicone-post/#comment-227 Thu, 15 May 2014 23:01:00 +0000 http://loraxofsex.com/?p=2140#comment-227 All that chemistry and no real look into cleansers? I need to correct the chemistry on this point. They are not soaps in the traditional sense. I cringe when I see the suggestion to use soap & water because, especially with hard water, soap scum and hard water deposits together can cling to any surface – just look at your glass shower doors after a while. Most people don’t have a water softener and when they see “mild soap” they reach for the bar of soap by the bathroom sink, not the Ivory or baby wash. Regular soaps are detergents and surfactants. They are at a basic pH and do leave behind an anti-oil film. Hard water deposits mainly lime salts. Both of these deposits can cause vaginal pH disruptions, much like a glycerin lube will cause a yeast infection in a sensitive vagina. In addition, they can degrade softer TPE sleeves for men (a Tenga egg is going to last longer when a cleanser is used rather than soap, although soap is not going to give a penis an infection and it’s 100% ok to clean penis toys with soap – sorry ladies, it’s a pH thing).

Most commercial cleansers contain water, some sort of phospholipid (usually coconut-derived), an alcohol, a chelating agent or preservative, citric acid, and/or fragrance in various combinations depending on the brand. The active cleansing agents are going to be your phospholipids and your citric acid. Phospholipids are emulsifiers, not surfactants. They’re not harsh like soap although they sometimes “suds” up. All of these have antimicrobial properties without introducing a basic pH (salts & soaps) to an acidic pH environment (the vagina).

This is the value of cleansers and it’s highly underrated and understated, and again comes down to basic chemistry (OK, not basic chemistry – organic chemistry is a full year of junior-year hell in undergrad and after that it’s magnified like the student loan that’s getting you through graduate or med school).

HOWEVER, I will say the following:
1. It’s not as big a deal with non-porous or nearly non-porous materials like silicone, although hard water build up should be watched closely and a liquid hand soap is better than a hard bar soap.

2. You can get the same antimicrobial results with white vinegar & water in equal parts, which will take care of hard water deposits, too. THIS is the clean little secret toy cleanser makers and toy shops don’t want you to know, but you do pay for convenience and vinegar isn’t pleasant to smell, so I personally do pay for convenience.

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By: Missy https://loraxofsex.com/2014/03/epic-silicone-post/#comment-226 Sat, 10 May 2014 13:59:00 +0000 http://loraxofsex.com/?p=2140#comment-226 Thank you for sharing this with me on my Twitter. I am book marking this for future reference. It was very useful in my search for information.

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By: The Redhead Bedhead https://loraxofsex.com/2014/03/epic-silicone-post/#comment-218 Wed, 26 Mar 2014 05:41:00 +0000 http://loraxofsex.com/?p=2140#comment-218 WOOO!!!! Love. This. This is amazing.

Sorry it took me so long. I was hiding from the internet.

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By: Epiphora https://loraxofsex.com/2014/03/epic-silicone-post/#comment-217 Sat, 22 Mar 2014 02:59:00 +0000 http://loraxofsex.com/?p=2140#comment-217 Slow

motherfucking

clap.

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By: arollinthehay https://loraxofsex.com/2014/03/epic-silicone-post/#comment-216 Wed, 19 Mar 2014 02:20:00 +0000 http://loraxofsex.com/?p=2140#comment-216 Thank you, THANK YOU so much for clearing up some common misconceptions.

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By: Bex https://loraxofsex.com/2014/03/epic-silicone-post/#comment-215 Tue, 18 Mar 2014 00:11:00 +0000 http://loraxofsex.com/?p=2140#comment-215 Woo! Only took me about 24 hours but I finished it! It could have gone faster but I had some people distracting me :P

Thank you so much for doing all the science for us bloggers and sharing everything you learned. Silicone is so difficult because there are so many different shores and so many other things pretending to be silicone. I have the feeling that this is a post we will be referenced and linked to often!

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By: Lorax Of Sex https://loraxofsex.com/2014/03/epic-silicone-post/#comment-214 Mon, 17 Mar 2014 16:43:00 +0000 http://loraxofsex.com/?p=2140#comment-214 In reply to Jenna Clark.

I tossed all my gear into a bin after teaching a sex utensil safety class and forgot about it. They snuggled up to a gross toxic toy I’d used as an example and got stained. So sad, because you can’t get Revolution any more and mine is all tainted now.

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By: Jenna Clark https://loraxofsex.com/2014/03/epic-silicone-post/#comment-213 Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:51:00 +0000 http://loraxofsex.com/?p=2140#comment-213 Two things: “Sex utensil” is indeed a fantastic term, I leave it to you and your colleagues to get this into the lexicon as fast as possible. (And please get rid of “dong”…I hate that one.)

Also – WTH happened to your Vamp & Rev in that photo? You’ve piqued my interest.

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